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Post by Iain on Apr 23, 2009 9:26:09 GMT
is there kit requirements for the fling?
Do we have to take full water proofs? Looking at the forecast I was just going to carry a fully waterproof jacket.
Or is it just 'take what you think you'll need'..
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Post by Drama Queen on Apr 23, 2009 9:36:15 GMT
Up till now there have been no rules. Everyone is an adult and you should have the smarts to make arrangements that safe guard your safety and well being.
Looking at the forecast I think a windproof or waterproof jacket would advisable...but then some people will go in vests. It always happens.
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Post by Tim on Apr 23, 2009 9:37:02 GMT
is there kit requirements for the fling? Do we have to take full water proofs? Looking at the forecast I was just going to carry a fully waterproof jacket. Or is it just 'take what you think you'll need'.. Hi Iain, hopefully if Murdo has a moment he'll pop in with the official answer but I think the "About" page sums it up. "Runners are expected to dress according to the prevailing weather conditions". I think it's really down to you to decide what is appropriate dress. I usually keep some lightweight waterproof leggings in my bag if only because you never know when you might suffer an injury and be grateful for another layer to keep you warm if you end up walking for miles. |
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Post by Speedy Gonzales on Apr 23, 2009 10:04:45 GMT
As a relay runner I was not going to carry any kit at all. I'm just running in a vest (even if it's raining a little). I'll have warm clothes waiting for me at the checkpoint.
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Post by Bony Peter on Apr 23, 2009 10:14:59 GMT
I will be carrying a light weight water prof top and and extra top in my bum bag.
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Post by Tim on Apr 23, 2009 10:24:11 GMT
As a relay runner I was not going to carry any kit at all. I'm just running in a vest (even if it's raining a little). I'll have warm clothes waiting for me at the checkpoint. I think that running in just a vest might cause a little alarm.  Make sure it's a long one. ;D |
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Post by johnk on Apr 23, 2009 10:26:34 GMT
I always carry Full waterproof body cover , lightweight survival bag plus a small first aid kit, after all they weigh b**ger all and you never know even if not needed by yourself you could well come across somebody in need.
By the way i am a vest and shorts runner but given the early start the vest will probabaly start off ovr a helly
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Post by Bony Peter on Apr 23, 2009 10:37:34 GMT
I find it is better to have more you can always take it off. But you can not put it on if you do not have it.
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Post by iain on Apr 23, 2009 10:40:31 GMT
Cheers, wasn't sure if there was going to be a huge list; map, compass, whistle, first aid, survival bag, hat, gloves, water proof leggins et al..
Did a race in Ireland recently, British Champs, and the organiser just said 'take what you think you'll need', what a refreshing attitude, it also just puts the responsibility on the runner to use their experience an judge their requirements. naturally being a short fell race we all ran with nothing at all but we all needed nothing at all.
John, I think there's enough regular shelter enroute if the worst happens. But yes was thinking of starting off shorts, vest and probably a thin thermal, depends how cold it feels.
If it stays like it has been it's probably looking at 10-13 Deg C for most of the run which would be about perfect, with a bit of rain and wind it could be quite chilly but it's quite a sheltered run.
Anyway my kit bag always has loads of kit options in, just trying to work out which bumbag I can get away with.
Cheers
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Post by johnk on Apr 23, 2009 10:53:55 GMT
Cheers, wasn't sure if there was going to be a huge list; map, compass, whistle, first aid, survival bag, hat, gloves, water proof leggins et al.. Did a race in Ireland recently, British Champs, and the organiser just said 'take what you think you'll need', what a refreshing attitude, it also just puts the responsibility on the runner to use their experience an judge their requirements. naturally being a short fell race we all ran with nothing at all but we all needed nothing at all. John, I think there's enough regular shelter enroute if the worst happens. But yes was thinking of starting off shorts, vest and probably a thin thermal, depends how cold it feels. If it stays like it has been it's probably looking at 10-13 Deg C for most of the run which would be about perfect, with a bit of rain and wind it could be quite chilly but it's quite a sheltered run. Anyway my kit bag always has loads of kit options in, just trying to work out which bumbag I can get away with. Cheers I am sure you are right re the shelter Iain but as i see it e.g Somebody in vest and shorts takes a bad fall maybe even an open fracture into the bargain, or even knocked unconcious on say the descent of Conic throw in the forecast wind and rain and even given the relatively mild forecast temps that injured person laying on the exposed slope in the forecast wind and rain could soon be in severe trouble. I do hope that the above always remains Hypothetical but one never knows. Have fun folks JohnK |
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Post by Iain on Apr 23, 2009 11:18:43 GMT
Totally agree, but I also think a lightweight bag will only buy a short amount of time anyway. I renewed my first aid course recently and because I use it as a ML I try to do them outdoor specific. Even wearing full paramo gear, hat gloves etc when simulating accidents and lay outside in the mud for just 10-20 minutes at a time I was absolutely freezing, and that was when wrapped in a sheet.
Without carrying an insulation layer at least to trap any heat generated I doubt we can do that much. In the outdoors the main option is help fast, you can often forget the injury, that won't kill them, hypothermia will.
In that sense I see the reason behind some race organisers asking for people to carry mobile phones, which often work on the summits even in the most mountainous areas.
When we guide runners around Snowdonia we carry little (but always a phone) but just impress on them that we have little and for them to be careful. With walkers the pace is slow enough that we can afford to carry a huge amount of extra clothing, blizzard bags etc to cope.
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